I'd also like to be involved. As a student in the MD/PhD program, I've been surprised to face many of these issues when dealing with both faculty and peers. I may be able to provide some perspective from the point of view of the "young ones."
Emily
Emily Rosenberger
MD/PhD Candidate
Clinical and Translational Science
University of Pittsburgh
rosenberger.emily at medstudent.pitt.edu
On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Broyles, Lauren M wrote:
> I would be interested in working on the forum too. Just as an FYI in case everyone did not see Doris Rubio’s send-out earlier this month on a DGIM list serv—this article on how people write letters of recommendation for women in medicine vs. men seems relevant to this discussion on hiring/offering salaries.
>> Best,
> Lauren
>> A B S T R A C T. This study examines over 300 letters of recommendation for medical faculty at a large American medical school in the mid-1990s, using methods from corpus and discourse analysis, with the theoretical perspective of gender schema from cognitive psychology. Letters written for female applicants were found to differ systematically from those written for male applicants in the extremes of length, in the percentages lacking in basic features, in the percentages with doubt raisers (an extended category of negative language, often associated with apparent commendation), and in frequency of mention of status terms. Further, the most common semantically grouped possessive phrases referring to female and male applicants (‘her teaching,’ ‘his research’) reinforce gender schema that tend to portray women as teachers and students, and men as researchers and professionals.
>http://advance.cornell.edu/documents/Exploring_the_color_of_glass.pdf>>> Lauren Matukaitis Broyles, PhD, RN
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> Email: lmb18 at pitt.edu>> From: womeninmedicine-bounces at list.pitt.edu [mailto:womeninmedicine-bounces at list.pitt.edu] On Behalf Of Deb Seltzer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: career management for women in academic medicine
> Subject: Re: [Womeninmedicine] from the NY Times
>> Hi Ann, I would be interested in working on this. Thanks, deb
>> Sent from my iPad. Forgive my brevity and any typos.
>> On Sep 26, 2012, at 11:20 AM, "Thompson, Ann" <thompsonae at ccm.upmc.edu> wrote:
>> Well, one thing we can do is find some ways to include this as a major part of an upcoming Women in Science and Medicine Forum.
>> Another thing might be to have a brain-storming meeting of anyone who’s interested. If you’ll let me know of your interest, I’ll take responsibility for setting up a meeting.
>> Thanks
> Ann
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>>>> From: womeninmedicine-bounces at list.pitt.edu [mailto:womeninmedicine-bounces at list.pitt.edu] On Behalf OfRagni, Margaret V
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:50 AM
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>> What can we do about this?
> Awareness raising - etc?
>> From: womeninmedicine-bounces at list.pitt.edu [womeninmedicine-bounces at list.pitt.edu] On Behalf Of Piraino, Beth M [piraino at pitt.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:14 AM
> To: career management for women in academic medicine
> Subject: Re: [Womeninmedicine] from the NY Times
>> What I found most shocking about this was that women professors also had this bias!
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>> From: womeninmedicine-bounces at list.pitt.edu [womeninmedicine-bounces at list.pitt.edu] On Behalf Of Weisz, Ora Anna [weisz at pitt.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:19 AM
> To: womeninmedicine at list.pitt.edu> Subject: [Womeninmedicine] from the NY Times
>> Bias Persists for Women of Science, a Study Finds
> By KENNETH CHANG
> Science professors at American universities widely regard female undergraduates as less competent than male students with the same accomplishments and skills, a new study by researchers at Yale concluded.
>> As a result, the report found, the professors were less likely to offer the women mentoring or a job. And even if they were willing to offer a job, the salary was lower.
>> The bias was pervasive, the scientists said, and probably reflected subconscious cultural influences rather than overt or deliberate discrimination.
>> Female professors were just as biased against women students as their male colleagues, and biology professors just as biased as physics professors — even though more than half of biology majors are women, whereas men far outnumber women in physics.
>> “I think we were all just a little bit surprised at how powerful the results were — that not only do the faculty in biology, chemistry and physics express these biases quite clearly, but the significance and strength of the results was really quite striking,” said Jo Handelsman, a professor of molecular, cellular and developmental biology at Yale.
>> Dr. Handelsman was the senior author of an article reporting the findings, published online on Monday by Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
>> Nancy Hopkins, a professor of biology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who has long talked about continuing barriers to women in science, described the study as “enormously important.”
>> Dr. Hopkins said that small slights, accumulated over the course of a career, slowed many women of science. “They don’t have the confidence level to get to the top,” she said. “They’re getting undercut.”
>> She added, “People tend to think that the problem has gone away, but alas, it hasn’t.”
>> Discussions of gender bias in science and mathematics have long been complicated by a host of factors — including whether women receive preferential treatment through affirmative action or whether innate differences indeed exist between men and women.
>> To avoid such complications, the Yale researchers sought to design the simplest study possible. They contacted professors in the biology, chemistry and physics departments at six major research universities — three private and three public, unnamed in the study — and asked them to evaluate, as part of a study, an application from a recent graduate seeking a position as a laboratory manager.
>> All of the professors received the same one-page summary, which portrayed the applicant as promising but not stellar. But in half of the descriptions, the mythical applicant was named John and in half the applicant was named Jennifer.
>> About 30 percent of the professors, 127 in all, responded. (They were asked not to discuss the study with colleagues, limiting the chance that they would compare notes and realize its purpose.)
>> On a scale of 1 to 7, with 7 being highest, professors gave John an average score of 4 for competence and Jennifer 3.3. John was also seen more favorably as someone they might hire for their laboratories or would be willing to mentor.
>> The average starting salary offered to Jennifer was $26,508. To John it was $30,328.
>> The bias had no relation to the professors’ age, sex, teaching field or tenure status. “There’s not even a hint of a difference there,” said Corinne Moss-Racusin, a postdoctoral social psychology researcher who was the lead author of the paper.
>> Dr. Handelsman said previous studies had shown similar subconscious bias in other occupations. But when she discussed the concerns with other scientists, many responded that scientists would rise above it because they were trained to analyze objective data rationally.
>> “I began to, on the one hand, wonder, ‘Well, perhaps that’s true: maybe people who are trained to be objective have some way of ferreting these out,’ ” she said. “But on the other hand, if scientists were no different from all the other groups that have been studied, that’s something that we should know.”
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